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Nevis Mailing-List Server Help Page

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  • Send your message from your nevis.columbia.edu address.
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  • Subscribe to the list using your alternate e-mail address. (You may have to unsubscribe your nevis.columbia.edu address to avoid receiving two copies of each message posted to the list.)
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  • Ask to subscribe to the list using your alternate e-mail address. (You may want to unsubscribe your nevis.columbia.edu address to avoid receiving two copies of each message posted to the list.)
 

Why didn't I receive a warning when my message was not accepted by a mailing list?

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Unfortunately, the spammers have made this impractical. They routinely send messages to every list on the mailing-list information page. Most of these messages have fake "From:" addresses. If the server sent a rejection message for every invalid
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Unfortunately, the spammers have made this impractical.

Turgid details: Spammers routinely send messages to every list on the mailing-list information page. Most of these messages have fake "From:" addresses. If the server sent a rejection message for every invalid

 message it received, the server would either be clogged with rejection messages that it cannot deliver (for non-existing "From:" addresses)
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or be spamming someone else (for spoofed "From:" addresses).

The best compromise appears to be to not send rejection messages to non-members of the list.

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or be spamming someone else (for spoofed "From:" addresses). The best compromise appears to be to not send rejection messages to non-members of the list.
 

I sent a message to one of the lists, and I may have misspelled the name of the list. Why didn't I receive a warning?

Again, the spammers have made this impractical.

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The mailing-list server receives more messages directed to non-existent lists than it does to existing ones. Typically, the spammers' robots don't pick up on the portion of the name after the dash, so (for example) they see atlas-discussion@listserv.nevis.columbia.edu and send e-mail to atlas@listserv.nevis.columbia.edu. When the mailing-list server used to send back warning messages, it was spamming people at faked "From:" addresses.
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Turgid details: The mailing-list server receives more messages directed to non-existent lists than it does to existing ones. Typically, the spammers' robots don't pick up on the portion of the name after the dash, so (for example) they see atlas-discussion@listserv.nevis.columbia.edu and send e-mail to atlas@listserv.nevis.columbia.edu. When the mailing-list server used to send back warning messages, it was spamming people at faked "From:" addresses.
 

Does this mean that if my message is rejected by the mailing-list server for any reason, I will receive no warning at all?

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Subscribing and unsubscribing

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Where is the Subscribe button?

There isn't one. Once again, hackers forced the removal of a Subscribe button from our mailing lists. See the next question if you want to subscribe to one of the lists.

Turgid details: The hackers started using automated web tools to visit the subscription page on every single mailing list at Nevis multiple times. Our mailing-list server sent confirmation requests for each subscription. The result was that we sent thousands of confirmation messages, filling up the recipients' inboxes and causing our server to be treated as a spambot by the major internet services. Each of these requests was coming from a different IP address, so tools like fail2ban, mod_evasive, and mod_security did not work. The only remaining option was to remove the Subscribe button and have all subscriptions be added by the list administrators.

 

I work for Columbia University or Nevis Labs, or I'm affiliated with the research that takes place there, and I should be on one of the lists.

Send a message to the

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mailing-list server administrator, with the name of the list(s) to which you wish to subscribe, and it will be taken care of.

You can also send a subscription request via the mailing-list information page. Just click on the name of the mailing list and fill in the form.

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mailing-list server administrator, with the name of the list(s) to which you wish to subscribe, and it will be taken care of.
 

I don't work for Columbia University or Nevis Labs, and I'm not affiliated with any of the research that takes place there, but I'm interested in physics. Can I be on one of the lists?

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I tried unsubscribing from one of the lists, but I'm still getting messages from it. What's going on?

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Take a look at the description of the list on the mailing-list information page. Does the description begin with the word "Union"? If so, you can't unsubscribe from the list. Or rather, you can, but you'll be automatically resubscribed when the list is re-created.

You see, the "union" lists are re-made periodically from the other mailing lists given in the description. For example, "atlas-linux" is described as the "Union of nevis-atlas, atlas-guest, and nevis-admin". If you want to stop receiving messages from "atlas-linux", you'll have to unsubscribe from "nevis-atlas" or "atlas-guest".

I tried subscribing my alternate e-mail address to a list, but it didn't work.

Take a look to the answer to the previous question.

If you want to receive messages from a "union" list, you have to subscribe to one of the base lists. If you only subscribe to a "union" list, your subscription is forgotten when the mailing list is re-created.

If your needs are very specific (e.g., you want to receive messages from the atlas-linux mailing list, but not from the nevis-linux mailing list), contact the mailing-list administrator.

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Take a look at the description of the list on the mailing-list information page. Does the description begin with the word "Union"? If so, you can't unsubscribe from the list. Or rather, you can, but you'll be automatically resubscribed when the list is re-created.

Reason: The "union" lists are re-made periodically from the other mailing lists given in the description. For example, "atlas-linux" is described as the "Union of nevis-atlas, atlas-guest, and nevis-admin". If you want to stop receiving messages from "atlas-linux", you have to unsubscribe from "nevis-atlas" or "atlas-guest".

 

Membership and options

How do I tell which mailing list I'm on?

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If it isn't clear from the name or description of the list, send a message to the
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If it isn't clear from the name or description of the list, send a message to the
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I changed my mailing-list options for one of the lists, but the changes didn't seem to take place. Why not?

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I'd like for a new mailing list to be created on the Nevis mailing-list server.

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If you're a Nevis officer or a member of the faculty, I'd be glad to do this for you. Just send a message to the mailing-list server administrator.
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If you're a Nevis officer or a member of the faculty, I'd be glad to do this for you. Just send a message to the mailing-list server administrator.
 

I'm a principal investigator or a spokesman for one of the experiments for which you've created a mailing list, yet I can't moderate the list.

 
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